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SethF, and a Gripe with Greplaw

See Peter Junger’s letter for details on the after the fact editing of Seth Finkelstein’s Greplaw interview.


This concerns me on a number of levels.  On a journalistic level, I think the edits are rather unbecoming of Greplaw. By inserting Mr. Godwin’s words into the middle of the interview, Greplaw reframes Seth’s words, creating false implications about what he actually said. Greplaw’s paraphrasing of Godwin, rather than directly quoting him, enhances this effect, for the implication about Seth’s words appears to come from Greplaw itself. Seth did not sign up for a point-counterpoint with his critics; in the context of an interview with a single person, these methods seem rather inappropriate. To go back and make these edits after the original posting seems even worse. If anything, Greplaw should have allowed Godwin to post a separate, follow-up response, directly quoting him, while allowing Seth to respond if necessary.


I’d be interested in hearing Greplaw’s side of things.  Perhaps there’s something I’m missing.

Skylink Wins and so too might DMCA Reform Advocates

Jason’s got the scoop, and, from the quotes he pulls, this looks really interesting.


[later:] Ernest is on the case – he captures my sentiments, particularly with regard to it inspiring and frustrating.  I’m going to chew on this on my way to NY this evening – it’s a lot to take in.  The copy and access control distinction is indeed rather murky.  The court boldly brought 1201(c) to bear (SethF, I imagine, is as surprised as I am).  The court says anti-trust and misuse still apply, regardless of the DMCA.  The court even says that Chamberlain’s interpretation of the DMCA would make it borderline irrational under the test expressed in Eldred.  Here are some of the money lines:



“The statutory structure and the legislative history both make it clear that the DMCA granted copyright holders additional legal protections, but neither rescinded the basic bargain granting the public noninfringing and fair uses of copyrighted materials,

Real’s Freedom of Choice Campaign and Price Cuts

Today, Real announced a campaign to support interoperability and an amazing, if temporary, 50% price cut on all songs and albums at the Real Music Store.  Let me take each issue in turn.


1.  As for the Freedom of Choice campaign, it still doesn’t answer any of the questions I had before.  Why did Real use the proprietary Helix if it wants interop?  Why did it sue Streambox?  But, all things considered, not speaking to these points doesn’t surprise me.


What surprises me is Public Knowledge’s support for the Freedom of Choice campaign.  Yes, Real happens to be supporting interop in this narrow instance and, yes, PK only addresses that narrow point.  I still don’t see why Real deserves such pronounced support for this. These are the same guys who sued Streambox, and it’s not like I’ve seen them at the forefront of DMCRA campaigners (which is not to say they haven’t contributed; I don’t know what/if they’ve contributed).  At the very least, PK’s support should have been qualified with a statement that broader issues are at stake here and the DMCA is at the root of the problem.  I know PK has the best of intentions here and I respect them a great deal, but I strongly disagree with the manner in which they have supported this campaign.


If you look closely, Freedom of Choice’s goal is not really the same as Public Knowledge’s in this regard. Freedom of Choice urges companies to license their DRM standards. PK, in advocating for the repeal of the DMCA, argues that you shouldn’t even need a license. Real shouldn’t have to beg Apple to license and then put themselves in legal jeapordy; neither should Streambox or 321 Studios. Legitimate circumvention and reverse engineering for interop should be allowed in general.  But in the press release, PK merely states that interop is necessary to create a better alternative to P2P and tech companies and copyright holders should work together on this issue.  Nothing whatsover is said about the DMCA or DMCRA.  PK ends up sounding like just another group that supports the mythical “open” DRM standards.


That’s too bad, because they’re far more than that.  They are concerned not just with making tech companies shake hands in this narrow instance, but in creating a generally better legal environment.  Instead of patting Real on the back for this, PK should have told them to put all that marketing money into ensuring the DMCRA gets passed. 


Maybe PK thinks that by pushing this narrow campaign along others will eventually buy into the broader point. Perhaps other tech companies will also become born again interop believers.  I suspect that many will simply pursue whatever is in their immediate interest, as I believe Real is doing now.


2.  On the pricing front, I think this could be an interesting turning point in the market.  If Real actually throws some marketing muscle behind the discounting, we may start to see some limited price competition.  Wal-mart’s lower pricing is basically insignificant because hardly anyone even knows about their site, I suspect.  If Real’s buyers increase by several multiples, it will put pressure on every other Store, regardless of the fact that Real will be losing money on every sale.


Remember, Real pursued a similar price drop with Rhapsody.  Burns originally cost 99 cents, and then Real temporarily dropped them to 49 cents.  Burns tripled, and Real subsequently set the price permanently at 79 cents.


Which is not to say that Real’s move will vault them ahead or will enhance the long term prospects of the downloads market.  Subscriptions still have the best prospects.  This price drop will simply be interesting as a real world test of what consumers might be willing to pay for online music.  It can lay the foundation for strategies and biz models that may help lead to price competition and drops generally.

Keeping up on INDUCE

I wish I had more time to talk about the INDUCE Act. Luckily, everyone on the blogroll has been full of good info, so check it out. In particular and as usual, Ernest has been on a roll.  Make sure to check out former Intel exec Les Vadasz’s op-ed, out from behind the WSJ subscription wall, over at The Importance Of.

Things I Like

Ernest’s DRM posts have overflowed from Copyfight over to Importance Of…. Check both blogs and when in doubt check Frank for more linkage.  Ernest’s really laying out the case against DRM nicely.

P2P Hearing statements

See here for statements from today’s Senate Commerce Committee hearing on P2P.  Pay particular attention to the FTC’s discussions of P2P.  I hope the Congressmen recognize how far this is removed from the scare tactic rhetoric of the RIAA/MPAA.

Inside the Courtroom of an RIAA v. P2P User Case

Berkmanite Mary Bridges was at yesterday’s court proceeding for Capitol Records et. al. v. Alujan, one of the RIAA’s suits against P2P users.  She filed this excellent report.  See also the Berkman Center’s amicus brief in the case.

Bahamian Cable Dispute Makes US Crabby

Via pho comes a link here: (see also here)



“Scarcely a week passes in this world when the United States Government or the agglomeration of European countries that together rule the world don’t come up with some scheme or other to try to blackmail developing countries into doing things that will in some way harm their national interest.  Now the latest thing is the United States Trade Office proposes to put The Bahamas on a list that will stop us from trading our crawfish to the United States.  Their decision may also affect our tourist trade. 
And so we are scrambling round to do what the FNM government was supposed to do from 31st December 2000.  An amendment to the Copyright Act was to have been passed to limit the scope of compulsory licensing that Hubert Ingraham and his cronies passed to allow Cable Bahamas to take the signal down from the satellite in English and broadcast it.  A fee would have to be paid, and this would be turned over to the copyright holder.  Except that the US in support of its copyright owners, the Motion Picture Association of America said no dice.  They refused to take the money and it is piled up in a bank account in Nassau.   And they refuse to enter into negotiations as contemplated by the agreement between the Ingraham Government and the US and now one which the Christie Government has to enforce. 
The rubber may hit the road as early as April.  No amount of pleading and imploring has moved the position of US Government agencies on these matters, as President Aristide found out, you don’t mess with the big boys.  The U.S. would bring the whole Bahamian economy crashing down on our heads just to make the point that they don’t want us to have their motion picture broadcasts in English because the market is too small for them to bother.  But if compulsory licensing catches on, then the larger markets will try and it and they’re sunk.  So compulsory licensing in The Bahamas has to go. Cable Bahamas isn’t worth the trouble.  But there is always something that smacks of unfairness in all of this.”


(Ok, so crabby was a stretch from crawfish – but I had to say it).

Spin on Audible Magic

That’s not really filtering on a decentralized P2P system.  That’s a decentralized P2P system that requires each user to access a centralized point of control in order to be on the network.  Can such a network protect users’ anonymity and be robust to targeted attacks in ways necessary to enable legitimate uses and speech?  Not like Freenet can.  No matter how many times the RIAA says that this would simply be KaZaA without the infringing files, with no other consequences, that doesn’t make it the truth.


Update: Ernest makes a fair point, but I think it’s a little too simplified.  Yes, there are elements of centralization in the commercial systems, but that doesn’t mean their “nature” wouldn’t be changed at all.  Audible Magic adds centralization that directly affects how files can be distributed.  For instance, if someone DoSs the GAIN servers, nothing changes about the way you can share files on KaZaA – if anything, it might go faster because GAIN might stop feeding you ads.  However, if Audible Magic is processing files slower because of a technical attack or just your everday server slowdown, that will affect your legitimate uses.


Also, as Ernest does note, the “nature” of systems would certainly be changed for fully decentralized systems, like Freenet or non-Streamcast (and some other commercial vendors’) versions of Gnutella.  And that was precisely my point: when Audible Magic or the RIAA claim that this filtering can happen in a truly decentralized environment, they are wrong.  This requires centralized control that will do more than simply rid the system of infringing files, and to force all P2P providers to include this filtering would limit the types of designs.

Three, Two, One: Lawsuit!

[updated 2/26] 321 Studios lost badly.  As SethF suggests, the worst of it was the complete rejection of the constitutional argument based on Eldred. See here for earlier discussion on that argument. 


As Seth said and I agreed then, unless the courts construe the argument broadly, they will be able to fall back on Corley‘s technological-inconvenience-is-not-an-excuse argument, which is precisely what happened here.  The meaning of Eldred as read through MGM v. 321 is that the government may limit fair use (as guaranteed by the Constitution) so long as it advances “significant government interests” and does not unreasonably burden fair use.  Here, the limit was “incidental” because of analog alternatives, and the financial burden was not placed due to the content of the speech.   Judge Illston’s analysis weighed the interests involved with substantial deference to the government.


What’s interesting is that, at first, it sounds like intermediate scrutiny, which is what the Eldred appelants wanted, but it seems very watered down. So it’s better than no First Amendment scrutiny, but only just.


Sigh.  I was hopeful that this would turn out at least a little better, because Judge Illston took an extremely long time (9 months) to render what ended up a rather simple decision.  But, this argument is an uphill battle, and it will likely take something more than a tool primarily used for making back-up copies to make it work.  It’s got to be something more inconvenienced, but also more striking – something like security research, perhaps.  On the constitutional arguments, Kevin makes some other cogent criticisms here.


It also wouldn’t hurt to have a judge who spends less time making conclusory arguments.  The entire opinion is basically citations of Corley and Elcom, but that was somewhat to be expected.  The problem is sections like this:



“Congress enacted the DMCA after evaluating a great deal of information, including testimony from a number of the law professors who filed an amicus brief before this Court. Congress determined that the DMCA was needed to protect copyrights and intellectual property rights; this Court finds that the challenged provisions further important and substantial government interests unrelated to the suppression of free expression, and that the incidental restrictions on First Amendment freedoms are no greater than essential to the furtherance of those interests.”


Before that, Judge Illston mentioned that intermediate scrutiny requires deference, citing Turner I.  But, from what little I know of First Amendment law, it does not mean a complete free pass.  Ward v. Rock Against Racism requires that the regulation “be narrowly tailored to serve a significant governmental interest.”  Narrow tailoring requires only that the interest “would be achieved less effectively” without the regulation.  Even so, that still requires the court to consider alternatives; if a different regulation could achieve comparable results with less impact on speech, then the present regulation is invalid. 


In Turner I and II (which came after Ward, btw), the SC does set forth a very deferential standard. Rather than weighing competing theories of future harms and benefits, simply asked Congress to provide substantial evidence.  At the same time, the Court examined that evidence to make sure it was indeed substantial.  The Court could then assess whether the “burden imposed … is congruent to the benefits it affords.”  Even though the Court said it need not reject the regulation because another regulation would be “marginally less intrusive,” it did consider several alternatives to make sure they were not “substantially broader than necessary.”


Judge Illston doesn’t bother with any analysis on these scores, and that sadly is a pattern throughout this opinion.  She doesn’t even bother to cite Corley here, probably because it makes similarly conclusory arguments regarding narrow tailoring.  (For more discussion of these cases, see the article linked to here).


Illston also failed to shed any light on the difference between access and copy controls, a favorite subject of Ernest’sSkylink is the only case to give a refined, if muddled, definition of access controls.


But 321’s fight is far from over.  Apparently, they’re going to release their software without the decryption component (DeCSS or a variant).  Their opponents claim that this isn’t kosher, but I think 321’s actually got a decent case.  They will have to be very careful, but so long as they don’t tell anyone how to make a circumvention device, doesn’t seem like they’ll be trafficking.  If the DMCA does not apply, then Sony does, and that’s a standard they can surely make.


Here’s the silver lining in Illston’s ruling – she seems to have anticipated this in a way that favors 321:


“The DMCA does not prohibit copying of non-CSS encrypted material, so if 321 removed the part of its software that bypasses CSS and marketed only the DVD copying portion, it could freely market its product to customers who use the software to copy non-CSS encrypted DVDs and other public domain material.” (emphasis added)


Though it might also be used by customers who copy CSS encrypted disks, that is irrelevant under Sony.  Copying non-CSS encrypted DVDs and public domain material will likely count as substantial non-infringing uses.

Studios Go After “Screener” Distributor

A few weeks ago, Ernest wrote: ” But have we heard anything from the movie studios about [Oscar “screeners” ending up on the Internet]? Why haven’t they taken any action on this blatant disregard for the rights of the copyright holders?”


Maybe they heard Ernest, because two studies have now sued actor Carmine Caridi for allowing his friend, Russell Sprague, to copy a VHS screener and distribute it on the Internet (news via pho).  Sprague has also been charged with criminal copyright infringement.  The MPAA hasn’t sued their own customers, but they have sued one of their own – very interesting.

When Frank Writes

You read.

Three Interesting Posts on the RIAA’s Lawsuits

Lawrence Solum, Ed Lee, and Ernest Miller have comments following the recent surveys by Pew and NPD.

Balkin on Internet, Free Speech, Telecom, IP

Last week, Ernest wrote: “I, of course, remain convinced that telecommunications law, copyright and the First Amendment are related throught the concept of distribution … that they can all be analyzed through the lense of rights of distribution.”


Well, Jack Balkin doesn’t exactly cover all those issues in his latest paper, Digital Speech and Democratic Culture: A Theory of Freedom of Expression for the Information Society (via Legal Theory Blog).  He’s writing about free speech as a principle moreso than the First Amendment itself, but he does relate it to telecom and IP.  He does so by highlighting what the Internet the Internet reveals and makes “salient” about free speech, and discussing what the consequences should be for our policy-making.  In sum, he says we need to shift our focus to creating a democratic culture, rather than simply democratic governance or deliberation over public issues.  Read the abstract and the article for more – here’s a key quote to get you started:



“Freedom is participation. Freedom is distribution. Freedom is interaction. Freedom is the ability to influence and be influenced in turn. Freedom is the ability to change others and to be changed as well. Freedom is the ability to glom on and route around. Freedom is appropriation, transformation, promulgation, subversion, the creation of the new out of the old. Freedom is mixing, fusing, separating, conflating and uniting. Freedom is the discovery of synergies, the reshuffling of associations and connections, the combination of influences and materials.


Freedom is bricolage.”


And, in closing, a hope and a warning:



“The digital revolution is a revolution, and like all revolutions, it is a time of confusion, a time of transition, and a time of opportunity for reshaping the structures of the economy and the sources of power. As a time of opportunity it is also a time of opportunism, a period in which the meaning of liberty of expression will be determined for good or for ill, just as the meaning of economic liberty was determined in an earlier age. Make no mistake: The digital age will change the meaning of freedom of expression. The only question is how it will change. If we do not reconsider the basis of liberty in this age, if we do not possess the vigilance of the guide as well as the guard, we shall end up like every person who travels through the wilderness without a compass, or through the forest without the forester. We shall end up lost.”


Balkin also argues that courts will ultimately be ill-suited for the policy-making we need. Courts generally protect free speech in the form of individual rights, whereas, according to Balkin, promoting a democratic culture in the digital age requires a conducive “technological and regulatory infrastructure.”  That will take a more comprehensive approach to analyzing technologies than a court, facing a particular existing technology under a statute with limited remedies, can accomplish. Citing Lessig in Code and an interesting article by Beth Noveck entitled Designing Deliberative Democracy in Cyberspace:the Role of the Cyber-Lawyer, Balkin states that this requires “not simply lawyers who study cyberlaw, but lawyers who think about how technology should be designed and how public policies can be achieved through technological design.”


You might also want to check out an article I come back to again and again, Neil Netanel’s Copyright and a Democratic Civil Society. The result is somewhat the same so far as copyright goes – Netanel argues for greater ability for individuals to build on works of others and participate in culture – but he does come at it from more of a demcoratic governance standpoint.

John Perry Barlow Has a Blog

Nuff said. (via DTM)

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